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by TygerMoon Foxx
& Moondancer
* Is the Georgian Tradition part of "BTW"
(British Traditional Wicca)?
Georgian Wicca is similar to
Alexandrian and Gardnerian practice, in that it is an initiatory line and
oathbound. Many of the rituals are similar to those published in
various books on what is sometimes called "British Traditional Wicca",
such as the Farrar's Eight Sabbats for Witches and The Witches' Way, as
well as Ed Fitch's Grimoire of the Shadows. However, strictly speaking,
all BTW groups ultimately derive from a lineage that goes back to the
"New Forest" covens, and as the Georgian Tradition does not have that,
no, we are not, strictly speaking, a BTW line. BTW-derived,
and influenced, yes.
* There is precious little information
posted on actual Georgian beliefs. Why is this?
Well, a lot of
the information you seek is probably contained within the degree
materials and that is of course protected by oath. The Georgian
website has the Georgian Manifesto on it which spells out the basic
beliefs and the contents of this site give you a pretty good feel of
who we are and what we do.
* Can just anyone start a Georgian
Coven?
No. In order for a coven to be a valid Georgian coven, it
must have at least a 3rd° Elder who is a High Priestess or
High Priest. Very rarely, you may come across a study group that does
not have an Elder, however, these are always under the direct guidance
of one (such as a group of people completing distance study under a
remote High Priestess or High Priest.)
If you want to verify
whether or not someone is a legitimate Georgian Elder, or otherwise
qualified to run such a group, you can contact the online Council of
Elders for clarification.
* Where am I to find study info?
I
would suggest next asking questions and talking about your own
beliefs. That's the best way to see whether or not the Georgian
Tradition could possibly suit you --- and whether you would suit us.
It's a mutual selection process with each feeling the other out and
making determinations of compatibility. During Pat's lifetime, he
maintained an active, worldwide study program via the mail. Since his
death, there has not really been anyone willing to take on that
amount of work on a full-time basis.
For the most part. the
Georgians have always had a "hands-on" approach (which remains the
norm) but there are several long distance practitioners and students on
the Georgian Chat list at Yahoogroups. One of our members is in Australia
and his teachers are in California; another lives in Washington state
but his teacher is in the Midwest United States. Some may only see
their teacher three or four times a year. On the other hand, if you're
looking for a website with degree information for the Georgians and
want to do a correspondence-type arrangement, I don't think that is
something we do. Even those of us who are long distance students have
met our teachers at least once in person and have interacted with other
members of the group in some fashion.
* Online studies are
pretty much my only option.
I guess it would depend on what you
mean by "online studies" and "only option". There is, in my opinion, a
difference between online studies and being a long distance student.
With the Georgian, close contact is kept with the individual by at
least several other members including the teacher. We're a lot like a
family in that aspect, even though we might be scattered to the
four corners of the globe. You're not going to find a
correspondence-type course in which the teacher just sends you
materials, you complete a predetermined set of lessons, and the teacher
gives you your degree. The Georgians don't work that way; most of the
teachers I have had and have known like to stay involved with their
students and wherever possible the degree is always granted in
person. Frankly, if you don't live close to a Georgian teacher, and are
not willing to travel to further your studies, this Tradition is
probably not for you.
* So, what are my options?
Join the
Georgian Chat list, hosted at Yahoogroups; that would be a good
start. Ask questions, get to know the people on the list, and when
you feel you've found one that meets your needs, ask for further study.
Several email lists maintain a "seekers list" - Amber and Jet, another
list hosted at Yahoogroups would be another good choice. Look at the
information posted at the Witches Voice, and check the listing for
your area in their "Witches of the World section. If there is a local
Pagan community, get to know the people in it. Attend any of the
open rituals or get-togethers that are held, and ask others who they
study with.
Read, but read with a cautious eye - although there are
many good and useful books available on the general subject of Wicca
and Paganism, a lot of them are less than useful. Beware of any book
(or teacher) that tells you you must hide your beliefs from your family
- you are the best judge of what your family should know about you, and
there are many reasons why in Traditional Craft, there is no monetary
cost for instruction leading to initiation (reasonable costs for
copying, etc., are appropriate, depending upon the individual
teacher.)
* Is the Georgian tradition a private matter?
The
actual specific practices, rites, and Mysteries are indeed a
private, oathbound matter. Only initiated members of the Tradition have
access to that information. The Georgian Chat list is really good,
however, about giving out general information that will help you to
decide whether or not the Georgian Tradition is for you. Ask away ....
someone will always answer.
* I haven't noticed any books on this
tradition
Nor will you. The Georgian Tradition was mentioned in
several books published during the 1970's and 1980's, but the majority
of those are now out of print. A few of the books on general paganism
mention us briefly as one sect of Wicca, and repeated incessantly on
the internet are a few pieces that were written many years ago and
posted "everywhere on the net". We're actually fairly unique;
our founder may have borrowed the framework from various places, but
the blending of information, lore, and practices is something unique to
the Georgians and passed down only among them.
If you're curious
about a Georgian perspective, pick up
Dorothy Morrison's books. The
information contained within isn't specifically Georgian but it will
give you a good general idea of the types of practices which may be
found among the Georgians.
* Speaking of the internet, several
articles indicate that the Georgians are eclectic, and others say they
are traditionalist. What gives?
Ultimately, both are correct.
There is a core set of rituals, lore and training that each Georgian
should have been taught. Once that material is understood fully, the
members are encouraged to craft their own rituals and spells for
personal use or to share with the Tradition as a whole. Patterson once
expressed it thusly:
"A few of our Rituals are used just as we
received them, but most are a composite of Traditionalist, Celtic,
Alexandrian and Gardnerian. We take what we believe are the best or
most effective parts of each and combine them into new Rituals. And we
don't look down our noses at any other Branch of the Craft, although
I'm sure that not all others will take the same attitude towards
us."
However, just because a particular ritual, etc., is written
and conducted by a Georgian does not automatically make it a "Georgian
ritual".
If you have questions, you need only to ask. We rarely
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